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March 22, 2017

W(h?)anganui River is now a person?

 
Fresh water anglers don’t really care what they call it as long as they protect it.  But this proposal is as ridiculous as ‘swimmable’ rivers definition or bottled water policy… or have Treaty Negotiations Minister, Chris Finlayson, and Environment Minister, Nick Smith lost the plot?  These ridiculous water issues are gathering such a head of steam with continual political mis-management that even the most considerate fresh water anglers are worried – where will it end?  Nobody (except Chris Finlayson) claims to understand it.  i.e. 
 
From Hobsons Choice Trust:

Whanganui River becomes a ‘person’

If there was ever a moment when you thought New Zealand had drifted into the twilight zone, that moment could be when a Minister of the Crown with a straight face said that the Whanganui River had become a person.

Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister Christopher Finlayson said, when the Te Awa Tupua (Whanganui River Claims Settlement) Bill passed its third reading on Wednesday, that the bill “responds to the view of the iwi of the Whanganui River which has long recognised Te Awa Tupua through its traditions, customs and practise.” See http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/90488008/whanganui-river-gets-the-rights-of-a-legal-person

The “personalising” of the river overshadowed a hefty transfer of wealth from taxpayers comprising $80-million to settle river claims by some tribes associated with the river plus a further $30-million fund for these tribes to apply for grants out of.

The law has created an office – Te Pou Tupua – to act as “the human face” of the river, comprising two nominees – one representing the Crown and the other representing the tribes.

Maori Party co-leader Marama Fox said the move followed the example used in the Tuhoe Settlement Bill which saw Te Urewera National Park become a legal entity in 2014.

It is interesting to note that the Tuhoe co-governance set-up soon moved to a Tuhoe take-over.

Initially an eight-member board was set up with four representing the Crown and five for the tribe including the Tuhoe chair.

But after three years Tuhoe would have six representatives. See http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.co.nz/2016/09/mike-butler-tuhoe-co-governance_11.html

Watch this space for the Whanganui River representation.

 
Even Saturday NZ Herald editorial picked on it… 
 
“…How should we address the Whanaganui River now it has the legal status of a person?  Old Man River?
…The venerated river, third longest in the country, will have its own trustees to represent its interests.  It has a bank account, too, in the form of a $1 million grant to create a legal framework and a $30 m fund to improve its health.  Like many people after years of a poor diet, the river is not in the best shape….” etc.
 

x News hub:

The Whanganui River has been given the legal status of a person under a treaty settlement bill that’s just been passed by parliament.

It’s believed to be a world first.

Treaty Negotiations Minister Chris Finlayson says Whanganui Iwi has fought for recognition of its relationship with the river since the 1870s.

The iwi recognises the river, Te Awa Tupua, as part of the living mountains and the sea.

“Te Awa Tupua will have its own legal identity with all the corresponding rights, duties and liabilities of a legal person,” Mr Finlayson said.

“The approach of granting legal personality to a river is unique.”

Mr Finlayson said the river would have the ability to represent itself through human representatives, one appointed by the iwi and one by the Crown.

“I know some people will say it’s pretty strange to give a natural resource a legal personality, but it’s no stranger than family trusts, or companies, or incorporated societies,” he said.

“For Whanganui Iwi it means they have a representative speaking for the river, the Crown has a representative speaking for the river, and they are focused on addressing many of the problems the river has had over the last 140 years.”

Mr Finlayson says the passing of the bill ends the longest-running litigation in New Zealand’s history.

It includes $80 million financial redress, and an additional $1m as a contribution towards establishing the legal framework for the river.

The Crown will also contribute $30m to a contestable fund for looking after the river’s health.

NZN

 
x ‘Stuff’

If the Whanganui River is a person, is it just like you and me?

LAURA WALTERS

The Te Awa Tupua (Whanganui River Claims Settlement) Bill passed its third reading in Parliament on Wednesday.

The Whanganui River has gained its own legal identity with all the corresponding rights, duties and liabilities of a legal person.

Te Awa Tupua (Whanganui River Claims Settlement) Bill passed its third reading in Parliament on Wednesday and will come into effect once signed by the Governor General – making the mighty river a mighty large person.

But what does this actually mean? Will it have all the same rights and responsibilities as anyone else?

The Whanganui River, which runs 290km, is now a legal person. That’s a big person.

And if the river is now a person, what happens to those steamboats?

WHAT IS A LEGAL PERSON?

A legal person has all the rights, duties and liabilities of a person but is not a natural person – a human being.

It is believed the river is the first in the world to be granted the legal status of a person.

When it comes to understanding the river’s new rights and responsibilities, it’s easiest to think of it like you’d think of a company. 

WHEN IS THE RIVER REBORN?

The river will officially become a legal person as soon as the bill is given royal assent (signed by the Governor General) and passed into law (making it an Act). 

A legal person does not have an age limit assigned to it, so can live on forever (theoretically). 

OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERADOES IT HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS?

In New Zealand, legal persons, like companies, have guaranteed rights just like actual people (natural people).

The same way that a natural person has a right to freedom of expression, so does a company that owns a newspaper. This principle will now apply to the river.

Not all of the rights will apply but any right that it makes sense for a legal person to have, the river will have as well. This will include things like the right to natural justice.

OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA

CAN IT VOTE?

No, the river can’t vote. Just imagine it trying to fit in that booth.

WILL IT PAY TAXES?

Basically the same tax rules apply to it as apply to other legal persons. It probably depends on what it does, but if it starts supplying goods or services, it will have the same GST responsibilities as a company would.

CAN IT BE PROSECUTED?

Surely one of the greatest dangers associated with the river is drowning. Who is responsible if that happens?

Some countries have corporate manslaughter laws, but New Zealand doesn’t. 

Companies and other legal persons can be charged with some offences but manslaughter isn’t one of them.

You’re also not automatically responsible for someone’s death just because they died near you. If New Zealand ever changed its laws to allow companies, or rivers, to be charged with manslaughter, the prosecution would still have prove it did something wrong.

IS THE RIVER A MAN OR WOMAN?

At this stage the river is referred to as “it” but it could be assigned a gender (and not just that of a man or woman). If the people appointed to act as the human face of the river want to ask people to use another pronoun, they can, just like everyone else.

WHO LOOKS AFTER THE RIVER?

The law has created an office – Te Pou Tupua – to act as “the human face” of the river.

Te Pou Tupua has two people appointed to it, one by iwi with interests in the river, and one by the Crown.

The office has a responsibility to speak on behalf of the river, uphold its legal status, and promote the health and wellbeing of the river.

WHO PAYS FOR IT?

The Crown is bearing most of the cost to start with; this is all part of the settlement.

The settlement’s total cost to the Crown is $81 million.

Here’s how that’s broken down:

$30m for the establishment of Te Korotete (a fund to support the health and wellbeing of the river)

$200,000 per year for 20 years for Te Pou Tupua (the “face” of the river, or the two natural persons appointed to act for the river)

$430,000 for the establishment of Te Heke Ngahuru (a strategy established to ensure the future environmental, social, cultural and economic health and wellbeing of Te Awa Tupua). 

CAN I STILL ROW, ROW, ROW MY BOAT?

Existing public access and use of the Whanganui River, including navigation rights, will be preserved and not affected by the changes.

Sources: Lawyer Graeme Edgeler and New Zealand Government settlement summary.

 

 

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